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what are the chances

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 5:17 pm
by beermonsterblack
anyone know the chances of finding a saloon non sunroof roof skin or which models came without sunroof

Re: what are the chances

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:45 pm
by Cavalier342
Only the police cars came without sunroof. As for a roofskin, it's just metal, I know I've seen a couple of projects where people "smoothed" the sunroofs out, giving it a non-sunroof look.

Re: what are the chances

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 7:01 pm
by James McGrath
I didn't know this until recently but a sunroof was an optional extra on the envoy so most don't have one.

It was also an optional extra on the pre-facelift base for the first couple of years of production, by 1992 though it was made standard equipment.

You try and find a pre-facelift base today though; I've never seen one.

Your best bet is to try and find an envoy, still a fair few about.

Re: what are the chances

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 10:42 pm
by planetc
Agreed, Envoy is the one to find.

Re: what are the chances

Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 10:37 am
by beermonsterblack
James McGrath wrote:I didn't know this until recently but a sunroof was an optional extra on the envoy so most don't have one.

It was also an optional extra on the pre-facelift base for the first couple of years of production, by 1992 though it was made standard equipment.

You try and find a pre-facelift base today though; I've never seen one.

Your best bet is to try and find an envoy, still a fair few about.
ok m8 thanks now to try and find one

Re: what are the chances

Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 10:38 am
by beermonsterblack
Cavalier342 wrote:Only the police cars came without sunroof. As for a roofskin, it's just metal, I know I've seen a couple of projects where people "smoothed" the sunroofs out, giving it a non-sunroof look.
yeah seen a few like that but im not gunna have a headlining in so id like to lose all the sunroof frame

Re: what are the chances

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:34 pm
by myfirstcar
What about a Vectra A roof skin?

Most German spec cars had just about everything as an option.

When I lived in Germany, hardly any Calibras had sunroofs, but they were standard in UK, maybe the same for the Cavs.

Re: what are the chances

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:46 pm
by NickSRi
I'm in favour of 'non sunroof' cav's too....

Envoy could be the easiest catch, but don't forget to hunt down ex police too.

I wonder what happened to this one?

Re: what are the chances

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 8:19 pm
by NickSRi
Just on this 'sunroof' note..

I was on the M1 today, and I kinda realised that sun roofs are not at all popular on cars less than 10 years old, in fact hardly any new cars had them at all

When and why did sun roofs become so un cool ???

Re: what are the chances

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:00 pm
by James McGrath
Air conditioning made them supposedly obsolete.

Re: what are the chances

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:02 pm
by humbucker
My father had a G-reg RS edition Granada Scorpio that had air con AND sunroof. Luxury 80s goodness! :lol:

Re: what are the chances

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:22 pm
by terkin
my car had sunroof and a/c :wave sunroof is just noise dont really do anything lol

Re: what are the chances

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:24 pm
by James McGrath
terkin wrote:my car had sunroof and a/c :wave sunroof is just noise dont really do anything lol

It makes a big difference to air flow through the vents as the air has somewhere to escape so more air flows through.

Re: what are the chances

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:36 pm
by terkin
i dont see that :scratch going from personal experience thier rubbish plus with out a/c the air coming from vents is hot lol

Re: what are the chances

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:40 pm
by James McGrath
It's not the only reason of course. That's just what I find most useful about them though. Saves having to put the fan on.

I suppose the theory is heat rises, so put a hole in the roof and heat will go though it. :lol:

Re: what are the chances

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:46 pm
by terkin
lmao good point :lol: id have neither tbh :lol:

they have and entertainment value though,leave it open start the screen wash face full of soap lol

Re: what are the chances

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 12:58 pm
by humbucker
I have air con and a sunroof in my Cav Turbo. Headlamp wipers too. 80s-tastic!

Re: what are the chances

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 5:51 pm
by retrogeezer
air con and a sunroof in my 96 Mondeo Ghia too, the AC was an optional extra though.

Big fan of sunroofs, I like the light they let into the cabin for a start and the fresh air without the noise of having a window open.

Re: what are the chances

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 10:30 pm
by beermonsterblack
would a vec b saloon roof skin fit as loads of those don't have sunroofs and between the 2 don't look 2 dissimilar

Re: what are the chances

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 10:37 pm
by Cavalier342
Sunroofs in my opinion are great for 3 reasons:

1) Much easier to de-mist the cabin, whack the heater on and let it all escape through the top, and if it's raining, it won't get in if it's tilted up.

2) If you're not driving, you can stand on the seat and enjoy the wind.. Much safer than in a convertible, in which case you will fly out of it....

3) If you get caught in a flood, (let's be honest, it happens), a sun roof is sometimes your only viable escape. If you can't get out, a car is your grave in a flood....

Re: what are the chances

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 10:56 pm
by humbucker
Cavalier342 wrote:If you get caught in a flood, (let's be honest, it happens), a sun roof is sometimes your only viable escape
That is possibly the most amazing thing you have ever said on this forum.

Re: what are the chances

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 11:14 pm
by James McGrath
I wonder how many Cavaliers have been lost because of floods...

Re: what are the chances

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 11:19 pm
by planetc
James McGrath wrote:I wonder how many Cavaliers have been lost because of floods...
I wonder how many of the owners perished because their sunroof jammed?

Re: what are the chances

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 12:28 am
by James McGrath
planetc wrote: I wonder how many of the owners perished because their sunroof jammed?

Not a nice thought really is it...

Re: what are the chances

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 12:31 pm
by beermonsterblack
beermonsterblack wrote:would a vec b saloon roof skin fit as loads of those don't have sunroofs and between the 2 don't look 2 dissimilar
anyone know ?