WHATS WRONG WITH IT??

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WHATS WRONG WITH IT??

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my passenger front window is kinda strange you push the button for it and it goes down a stage and stops push the button again and it goes down another stage and stops you have to do this to get it to go all the way down and again to get it back up.. i dont think its the motor as the window isnt struggling to go up or down its just this stage thing ii dont understand lol
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sticky rubbers

my drivers window does the same :(

ive used white grease on mine now tho seems to work ok :)
My valver brings all the boys to the yard, dam right its cammed and carbed, dam right it pops and farts, I would show you but the fuker won't start!
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I've just sprayed a load of window silicone lubricant down the runners and its made no differance whatsoever lol
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If it isn't sticking in the rubbers you can try resetting the pinch guard by disconnecting the battery for a minute, then take the window to the top and hold the button for 10 secs. If it's still the same it is probably the motor control unit that has failed.
"No the temperature gauge doesn't work........
we've driven 150 miles today........
the heater went cold last Thursday........
they check the level when it's serviced don't they?"
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The window might not be alligned properly on the runners.
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TurboDan wrote:The window might not be alligned properly on the runners.
motor labours if it's runner related, he says it doesn't struggle just won't move more than an inch or so at a time
"No the temperature gauge doesn't work........
we've driven 150 miles today........
the heater went cold last Thursday........
they check the level when it's serviced don't they?"
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Well yeah i did read that, but i also seen that he couldn't put a cable tie on properly on his gear gaitor and so figured that he might not be that mechanically minded and so hasn't noticed that the window might be going up slightly to one side.

If all else fails i'd be taking the doorcard off and having alook behind there.
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planetc wrote:If it isn't sticking in the rubbers you can try resetting the pinch guard by disconnecting the battery for a minute, then take the window to the top and hold the button for 10 secs. If it's still the same it is probably the motor control unit that has failed.
its defo not sticking in the rubbers just going down in stages fella but i will try disconecting the battery as you suggested..
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TurboDan wrote:The window might not be alligned properly on the runners.
the window runs straight up and down no problem just does it in stages never seen a window do that before..
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TurboDan wrote:Well yeah i did read that, but i also seen that he couldn't put a cable tie on properly on his gear gaitor and so figured that he might not be that mechanically minded and so hasn't noticed that the window might be going up slightly to one side.

If all else fails i'd be taking the doorcard off and having alook behind there.
putting a cable tie on properly dosnt mean i dont know anything about cars fella ( i did explain in that thread that there seemed to be too much leather there for it to fit properly and besides i havnt owned anything this old for years and years!!) infact i was a vauxhall mechanic from 1982 to 1988 when i left to follow a different career path but i have always been working on cars ever since
i would defo notice if a window wasnt going up and down straight in its runners lol
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just take the fuse out the fuse box thats enough to reset the windows. saves resetting everything by removing the battery. passenger windows seem to be a problem on theses cavs ive heard from a few people theres is foooked.
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saucy_begger wrote:just take the fuse out the fuse box thats enough to reset the windows. saves resetting everything by removing the battery. passenger windows seem to be a problem on theses cavs ive heard from a few people theres is foooked.
im gonna have a play with it this morning lol and i will let you know
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well i took off the door card and the was quite pleased to see that the weather shield has never been disturbed but the door speaker is goosed... so anyway greased everything up, cleaned all the contacts on the motor and the door loom and disconnected the battery for an hour and its still the same so i guess probably the motor control unit?? and i bet there hard to get hold off??
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plenty of used ones around
"No the temperature gauge doesn't work........
we've driven 150 miles today........
the heater went cold last Thursday........
they check the level when it's serviced don't they?"
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planetc wrote:plenty of used ones around
where from fella and whats the correct name for the unit?
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It's part of the motor assembly. If it's an early one I would just buy a complete assembly myself, I did this for my drivers one. Later cars the control unit is easy to change and is the unit with the plug on it and is held in by two small torx screws either side of the plug.
"No the temperature gauge doesn't work........
we've driven 150 miles today........
the heater went cold last Thursday........
they check the level when it's serviced don't they?"
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Can't seem to find anything on the bay or in scrapyards fella?
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passenger side window mech

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VAUXHALL-CAVA ... 5d3441d298
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Follow the link pie posted, you won't find anyone that will split the control unit from the motor anyway.
"No the temperature gauge doesn't work........
we've driven 150 miles today........
the heater went cold last Thursday........
they check the level when it's serviced don't they?"
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Are we sure that's the right one for my car as the box that the loom plugs into seems really small to what's on my car
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window just needs reset hold button in till window goes all the way down then push the down button again hold for a few seconds and repeat for the window going up hope that helps

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chrisvectra wrote:Are we sure that's the right one for my car as the box that the loom plugs into seems really small to what's on my car
The earlier ones had a large black box control unit, I am 90% sure that you can swap to the later type though.
"No the temperature gauge doesn't work........
we've driven 150 miles today........
the heater went cold last Thursday........
they check the level when it's serviced don't they?"
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blackv6 wrote:window just needs reset hold button in till window goes all the way down then push the down button again hold for a few seconds and repeat for the window going up hope that helps

scott
tried all that scott and tried resetting the battery the window goes up and down stages..
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so the both the bigger units and smaller units are compaitable then dosnt matter which one i can find??
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chrisvectra wrote:so the both the bigger units and smaller units are compaitable then dosnt matter which one i can find??
If you use the regulator out of the donor too then I am pretty sure they are interchangeable.
"No the temperature gauge doesn't work........
we've driven 150 miles today........
the heater went cold last Thursday........
they check the level when it's serviced don't they?"
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