Angel Eyes Headlights- Wiring help

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Angel Eyes Headlights- Wiring help

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Hi there just in the process of trying to fit my new headlights, got very basic knowledge of electrics but i have plugged in what i think is correct so far, now i have not got a clue, i have two connectors on one side and a single connector on the other side are these suppose to connect two the old wiring from the sidelights?if that makes sense, if anyone could help see attached photos
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I am sure those little white plugs should connect to each other for the side lights (halo rings).

So - a three pin connector for the main two lights.
The wires to this are -
Brown = common earth for both lights.
Yellow = dip beam
White = high beam.

There should be a two pin plug that connects to your side light loom
Probably
Grey and black wire - side light feed
Brown - earth.

The two white connectors will probably have sky blue wires to them, and they are the internal connector for the rings / halos.

There are no other connectors apart from powered beam adjust, however these are not required on Angel Eye head lights.

I take it those are "FK" light units.

Depo lights were a slightly cheaper version but were definitely much easier to connect up.
The wiring that I have detailed is for Depo units, but I am sure FK units will be very similar.
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Just guessing -
The grey wires with white plugs, do they plug together to link the wiring for the halo rings.

The red wire with white plug - does that connect to the red wire with the earth ring on it in the first picture?

Maybe - you only need one side light feed, due to the low current rating of the halo bulbs.

I am sure this might confuse a bulk check module if it was fitted.

UPDATE -
I can see why you are confused.
That red and black pair of wires in the first image appear to be for something else.

The two connectors with white or grey wires cannot link as they are both female sockets.

And that single red...

Hmm very confusing.
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Many thanks for your reply I did wonder myself if the two connectors should plug into one another but the wires are the same length so that's not possible as for the single one haven't a clue, I would've though there'd be two connectors both sides and you would simply plug in the two connectors off the original sidelights so really I'm a bit stuck but many thanks for the help
Ps these are the DEPO headlights.

Many thanks colin
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Any pics of the back of the lights ? Do you know what the red cable with the ring terminal is & the black cable
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I have a pair of brand new light units (bought new 6 months ago) next to my desk at work.

I shall have a look tomorrow to see if mine are wired the same as yours or if they are like my old plug and play units.
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Here are my light units.

Just one plug for the two H7 bulbs

And one plug for the w5w bulb halo rings.

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So I am still baffled by your additional plugs.
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Any further on this Colin?
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Hi there thanks for getting back I've managed to get the lights working but when I put full beam on the side lights go out but I've learnt that the new wiring loom with a fuse box and relay should stop that happening but have no idea how you wire this up .did you get this with yours cheers Colin
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Hi Colin,
No, I did not have to do any wiring adaptations with either of my sets.

Both were straight forward plug and play.

Black, white and yellow wires in three legged connector plugs straight into the car's headlamp socket.

Pale blue and black wires in two pin connector plugged straight into side light plug.

What you should find is that when you put the high beams on, then the dip beams go off.

The side-light halo rings stay on whether you have side, dipped or main beams on.

I have seen a very infantile drawing showing those Depo lights connected via relays, but to be honest those instructioms are just utter tosh.

What you should have is.

Dipped beam bulb - H7 (55 watts) or H4 (55 / 60 watts) dependent upon your specific units.
These should be connected via one black and one yellow wire.

Main beam bulb - Usually H7. (55 watts)
This should be connected via one black and one white wire.

Black wires for both bulbs are to brown ground wire of headlamp loom connector.

Yellow wire of lamp unit goes to yellow of the car loom.
White wire of lamp unit goes to white of the car loom.


Halo rings should be 8 small dash bulbs (5w5) 1.2 capless bulbs.
These are connected in a parallel chain.
This chain should comprise one pale blue wire and one black wire.

This connects to the side-light connector.
Halo blue wire goes to sidelight loom grey/black or grey/green or even grey/red wire.

Black wire goes to side-light connector brown wire.
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iangsi wrote:Any pics of the back of the lights ? Do you know what the red cable with the ring terminal is & the black cable
Hi there the red and black wires are part of the new wiring that i got when i bought the lights there is also a relay and fuse box connected, i have got the lights to work only problem is when i put it on high beam the sidelights go out and from what i have read you must connect this new wiring system up to stop this happening, but as i have used all original wiring to get the lights to work, not too sure where the two connectors go, there is two connectors on the left hand side one big one small and one big one on the right hand side, i just need to know where they go??

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Aftermarket red wire is usually battery live.

Aftermarket black wire is usually ground.

Where do the other ends of those wires go?

If I know where all the wires go to, I can tell you how to wire it all up.

So make up a list detailing the connectors.
Wire colours
And destination.

Left big
Wire 1 - colour and destination
Wire 2 - colour and destination

Left small
Wire colour and destination

Right Big
Wire 1 - colour and destination
Wire 2 - colour and destination.

You don't have to be technically exact, just what you think they are.
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Many thanks for replying I will have a look tomorrow in the day
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Hi there thought i would take some pictures instead might make it easier to work out, hopefully as you can see all the original wires are connected to the new lights, ignore the white block connector as i made a mistake when i was first putting them in, so as far as the new wires are concerned all i have done is connected the wires to the battery, but where the connectors go is where i am stuck, as there is no other connections on the new lights and nothing left on the original wiring, hope the pictures show you what i am getting at

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I shall have a look later this evening...
Got all the wrapping and delivering to do first.
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From what I can see from here,
It looks like it may be an "optional" relay circuit to convert the side lights (halos) to DRLs.
(Daytime Running Lights).

I would not be surprised, if you could "daisy chain" the blue wires of the halos between a red and white connector pair.

So red wire connects to one blue.
Other blue connects to the white wire.

The relay would then be connected as follows.

Fat red wire from battery to fuse block in photo to relay terminal 30
For permanent power supply.

Black ground to relay terminal 85

Thinner Red wire out to halo rings from relay terminal 87

And an ignition live feed to relay terminal 86.
This looks like it is the pale grey wires in the pictures.

This is just a guess, but sort of fits.
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Hi there thanks for your reply and your time i was hoping that the new wire loom would keep sidelights on when you put full beam on but if all it does is give me daytime running lights think i will leave it as it is

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You are missing something obvious.

You could use the white wire from the main beam to operate the relay.

(Connect to the grey wire on the relay).
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Hi there as you can tell I'm not very good at electrics so the single grey wire in the left hand side chop that connector off and add that to the white wire off the main beam and on the right hand side do the same again but what do I do with the red connector ??

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Looking at my breakdown above.

1 - Fat red to battery positive via the inline fuse.

2 - Black wire to ground.

3 - Thin red out to the halo ring

4 - Grey - link into the white wire from the main headlight bulb connector.

Firstly I would connect up wires 1, 2 and 3 as described.

To test my theory, touch the grey wire to the battery positive terminal.

If it makes the relay click, and the halo's light up, then my assumptions are correct.

If I am correct, connect this wire to the white wire on the headlamp connector and flash the main beam.

If the halo's light with the main beams, then we are heading in the right direction.

If this is working as I describe... you can now make up a more permanent connection.
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To be more correct, it would help to know if I have identified the wire colours correctly to the pin numbers on the relay.

So
Pin 30 is power in from the fused supply.
(So probably the fat red).

Pin 85 is the ground for the relay itself.
(Usually black wire on aftermarket stuff(.

Pin 86 is the control voltage.
This triggers the relay.
In your case I am guessing it is the thin red wire and will link to the white of your high beam curcuit.

Pin 87 is the output to your device.
I am guessing the grey wire that links up to the wire to the halo's.
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Just a random thought...

Did flashing the main beam kill the side light / pilot light on the original light units?

If so, I am wondering if it isn't in fact a faulty indicator stalk.?
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Hi there when I flash the main beam the side lights do stay on its only when I put the fall beam on permently that they go off
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Just an update on this from my car, which is fitted with one of the last sets of Depo Angel Eye light units to be made.

For clarification - There are two H7 bulbs per light unit.
One for high beam, and one for dipped.

There are then eight w5w 1.2 watt bulbs for the side lights - 4 for each halo.

Now then the wiring.
I didn't realise until getting the car back from restoration, that I too had a relay loom supplied with the main light units.

The upshot is - that the paint-shop did not bother with the relay loom.
They wired the 3 pin connectors directly to the matching plug on the body loom.
And same with the side-light halos- the two pin connector plugs directly onto the body loom.
All lights appear to work perfectly, and managed to get the car through the MOT.

So the little relay and the big fat red wire, black wire and spare grey wires are not needed.
They just seem to confuse matters.

I hope that helps.

Looking back at Colin's description, it sounds like his dipped and side lights have somehow got confused.

Standard wiring allows the dipped beams to stay illuminated when flashing the high beam, but clicking the stalk forward into the high beam position should turn off the dipped beam.

Again - if Colin has used the relay, he may have used the yellow dipped beam wire to operate the halo circuit.
If this is indeed the case, if the dipped beam goes off, then so will the halo's.
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