1994 Cavalier LSi C20NE (was C18NZ) Work-horse
Re: 1994 Cavalier LSi C20NE (was C18NZ) Work-horse
Have I reached a verdict?
Hmm - not decided for myself,
but so far reaction from members, former members and passers-by have been quite positive.
I am sure tomorrow will generate a few opinions. We shall see.
I will be doing a few speed checks later to confirm the difference between speedo and true gps speed, so that I can ensure that -
A - I know what speed the instruments are registering at all speed limits,
B - so that I can confirm to James which code index / program number the fuel computer should be set at.
Should still be -
C20NE, Miles and 16500 impulses per mile.
Although I still find Tobias' tables to be a bit confusing, due to nothing exactly matching my set up.
I think taking into account of all my readings, tyre circumference and theoretical calculationd the "exact" pulses is 16,669 or something like that.
I shall do some checks between fuel computer speed, road speed and speedo speed as the morning progresses.
And generate more accurate calculations from there.
Hmm - not decided for myself,
but so far reaction from members, former members and passers-by have been quite positive.
I am sure tomorrow will generate a few opinions. We shall see.
I will be doing a few speed checks later to confirm the difference between speedo and true gps speed, so that I can ensure that -
A - I know what speed the instruments are registering at all speed limits,
B - so that I can confirm to James which code index / program number the fuel computer should be set at.
Should still be -
C20NE, Miles and 16500 impulses per mile.
Although I still find Tobias' tables to be a bit confusing, due to nothing exactly matching my set up.
I think taking into account of all my readings, tyre circumference and theoretical calculationd the "exact" pulses is 16,669 or something like that.
I shall do some checks between fuel computer speed, road speed and speedo speed as the morning progresses.
And generate more accurate calculations from there.
Re: 1994 Cavalier LSi C20NE (was C18NZ) Work-horse
Okay a few bits n bats...
An M8 x 25 countersunk head screw and a standard steel flat washer painted to match, seems to work well.
My show plates have arrived.
It seems very soft / poncey now, but it looks very pretty - ha ha.
With regard to speed comparisons between the car digi dash speedo, fuel computer speed settings and gps speed sensor.
70mph on digi dash = 138 mph on the fuel computer and 70 on the gps tracker.
So it looks like there is a slight improvement in accuracey between digi dash and gps.
The fuel computer values suggest that the speed pulse needs to be doubled as per my previous thoughts.
So 16,500 pulses should still be the most appropriate setting.
An M8 x 25 countersunk head screw and a standard steel flat washer painted to match, seems to work well.
My show plates have arrived.
It seems very soft / poncey now, but it looks very pretty - ha ha.
With regard to speed comparisons between the car digi dash speedo, fuel computer speed settings and gps speed sensor.
70mph on digi dash = 138 mph on the fuel computer and 70 on the gps tracker.
So it looks like there is a slight improvement in accuracey between digi dash and gps.
The fuel computer values suggest that the speed pulse needs to be doubled as per my previous thoughts.
So 16,500 pulses should still be the most appropriate setting.
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Re: 1994 Cavalier LSi C20NE (was C18NZ) Work-horse
I'd be happy with the Cav on the whole Rob
Re: 1994 Cavalier LSi C20NE (was C18NZ) Work-horse
Ermmm ... so which one’s your car...
Nice to get its back in track, liking the new wheels!
Nice to get its back in track, liking the new wheels!
Re: 1994 Cavalier LSi C20NE (was C18NZ) Work-horse
Sorry about that, I didn't make it too obvious...Mazza wrote:Ermmm ... so which one’s your car...
Nice to get its back in track, liking the new wheels!
I am still a bit unsure about my wheels.
I loved the originality of the standard silver wheels on the other cars.
And I am totally undecided on the red griffin badges.
Maybe some re-thinking required before the 2019 gatherings.
Re: 1994 Cavalier LSi C20NE (was C18NZ) Work-horse
I think they look bang on ... go well with the car colour.
Next step would be turbo alloys.
Next step would be turbo alloys.
Re: 1994 Cavalier LSi C20NE (was C18NZ) Work-horse
I think the fanblades are just fine.
I have no desire to throw any more cash at the car for more non-essentials.
A point of interest at Billing was my nice shiny griffin badges for the wheel centre caps.
I told everyone on Saturday that I bought them from an E-bay seller in Portugal.
I lied - he is in Spain.
Here is a link to his Vauxhall centre cap badges.
https://m.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_mwBann ... w=vauxhall
Mine are the 60mm red dished badges.
And they are a good fit in the recesses of the centre caps, even if they are not proper fanblade caps... not even Cavalier caps.
Just choose colour - black, chrome or red.
And badge diameter.
I am just wondering if badges could be bought to replace tired boot and front grille badges.
On my facelift hatch,
The grille badge is approx 83mm.
80 and 85mm are available.
My hatch badge is 52mm.
52mm is available.
The badges are sold in sets of 4, although I suppose you could message him for a price and availability.
For 4 wheel badges, a grille or bonnet badge and a hatch or boot badge.
I have no desire to throw any more cash at the car for more non-essentials.
A point of interest at Billing was my nice shiny griffin badges for the wheel centre caps.
I told everyone on Saturday that I bought them from an E-bay seller in Portugal.
I lied - he is in Spain.
Here is a link to his Vauxhall centre cap badges.
https://m.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_mwBann ... w=vauxhall
Mine are the 60mm red dished badges.
And they are a good fit in the recesses of the centre caps, even if they are not proper fanblade caps... not even Cavalier caps.
Just choose colour - black, chrome or red.
And badge diameter.
I am just wondering if badges could be bought to replace tired boot and front grille badges.
On my facelift hatch,
The grille badge is approx 83mm.
80 and 85mm are available.
My hatch badge is 52mm.
52mm is available.
The badges are sold in sets of 4, although I suppose you could message him for a price and availability.
For 4 wheel badges, a grille or bonnet badge and a hatch or boot badge.
Re: 1994 Cavalier LSi C20NE (was C18NZ) Work-horse
Hi Robsey link is wrong shows 250,000 results for vauxhall
Re: 1994 Cavalier LSi C20NE (was C18NZ) Work-horse
Strange?
Works for me...
Only 245 results.
I will give you a different search criteria...
Seller is - toplogohouse
In Vigo in Spain
And filter for Vauxhall.
Hope that helps.
Works for me...
Only 245 results.
I will give you a different search criteria...
Seller is - toplogohouse
In Vigo in Spain
And filter for Vauxhall.
Hope that helps.
Re: 1994 Cavalier LSi C20NE (was C18NZ) Work-horse
Works for me, will be looking for a bonnet badge replacement.
Alan
Alan
Re: 1994 Cavalier LSi C20NE (was C18NZ) Work-horse
As for proper badges, I have used e-bay seller Opelise a few times, but there isn't much left in the way of Cavalier Mk3 badges, decals and stickers.Mk3alan wrote:Works for me, will be looking for a bonnet badge replacement.
Alan
Re: 1994 Cavalier LSi C20NE (was C18NZ) Work-horse
I did once find a guy on the bay selling genuine bonnet badges - at £35 each!
Decided it wasn't that bad.
Alan
Decided it wasn't that bad.
Alan
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Re: 1994 Cavalier LSi C20NE (was C18NZ) Work-horse
Just bought a gen boot badge from Germany, 50 bucks ouch! I don't mind as it's a one off and will match the rest of new badges I have. Also got a brand new scuttle plastic for only 25, guy has quite a few for rhd model if anyone needs one.
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The problem with German sellers is that often, quoted postage costs make the purchase far too expensive to justify.
After nigh on bankrupting myself on the car, I simply cannot bare spending mainland seller's daylight robbery prices.
I would rather hand paint the badges myself - ha ha.
After nigh on bankrupting myself on the car, I simply cannot bare spending mainland seller's daylight robbery prices.
I would rather hand paint the badges myself - ha ha.
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Re: 1994 Cavalier LSi C20NE (was C18NZ) Work-horse
Postage wasn't too bad, 6 or 7 Euros. Yes I've spent a fair whack over the peace on my jalopy, and my other jalopies! I'm thinking that I'm over the big spend "era" I've got more or less everything I need for all the work on the cars now so it's all down to me now!Robsey wrote:The problem with German sellers is that often, quoted postage costs make the purchase far too expensive to justify.
After nigh on bankrupting myself on the car, I simply cannot bare spending mainland seller's daylight robbery prices.
I would rather hand paint the badges myself - ha ha.
Re: 1994 Cavalier LSi C20NE (was C18NZ) Work-horse
Not spending on the car didn't last long.
I bought an omega sunroof motor and controller module last week via ebay, because my roof only powered to the slid-back position, and then it only did it in 5cm (2") steps.
Requiring a flat screwdriver to manually wind the roof forward again.
This meant the missus and I were cooking in the sunshine driving down to Billing on Saturday.
The new unit arrived at work at lunchtime today, and by 5:30 this evening was fitted in my car.
The synchronising procedure was completed as per the omega manual.
And so I now have a fully working one-touch electric sunroof again - yayy.
Just in time for the autumn.
I bought an omega sunroof motor and controller module last week via ebay, because my roof only powered to the slid-back position, and then it only did it in 5cm (2") steps.
Requiring a flat screwdriver to manually wind the roof forward again.
This meant the missus and I were cooking in the sunshine driving down to Billing on Saturday.
The new unit arrived at work at lunchtime today, and by 5:30 this evening was fitted in my car.
The synchronising procedure was completed as per the omega manual.
And so I now have a fully working one-touch electric sunroof again - yayy.
Just in time for the autumn.
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Re: 1994 Cavalier LSi C20NE (was C18NZ) Work-horse
I've got the manual sunroof on mine, did you retro fit leccy one or did it come with?Robsey wrote:Not spending on the car didn't last long.
I bought an omega sunroof motor and controller module last week via ebay, because my roof only powered to the slid-back position, and then it only did it in 5cm (2") steps.
Requiring a flat screwdriver to manually wind the roof forward again.
This meant the missus and I were cooking in the sunshine driving down to Billing on Saturday.
The new unit arrived at work at lunchtime today, and by 5:30 this evening was fitted in my car.
The synchronising procedure was completed as per the omega manual.
And so I now have a fully working one-touch electric sunroof again - yayy.
Just in time for the autumn.
My own roof is jamming, like Bob Marley, although I really don't like this type of jamming! I'm probably never going to fix it tbh as I never uses the damn thing - Scotland after all!
Re: 1994 Cavalier LSi C20NE (was C18NZ) Work-horse
What synchronising procedure do you mean... ?
I’m curious
I’m curious
Re: 1994 Cavalier LSi C20NE (was C18NZ) Work-horse
I bought the car with standard manual slide and tilt roof.
After taking ownership from my wife, I fitted a Calibra electric (rocker switch) sunroof motor and switch assemblies.
Then a few years later, I fitted the Omega One touch (rotary dial) sunroof motor, module and switch assembly.
Now then, each has it's own merit.
The Omega set up is fantastic when it works.
BUT... I am now on my 3rd controller in about 10 years.
Motors are quite robust and seem bullet proof, but the controller units can become problematic when:-
The internal rub strips get tired / dirty,
Or the sprung contacts become weak,
Or the sensor disk inside becomes de-magnetised.
If you want "Easy reliable" then get the Calibra set-up.
If you want "Luxury Lazy" then get the Omega set up, plus a few spare control units.
After taking ownership from my wife, I fitted a Calibra electric (rocker switch) sunroof motor and switch assemblies.
Then a few years later, I fitted the Omega One touch (rotary dial) sunroof motor, module and switch assembly.
Now then, each has it's own merit.
The Omega set up is fantastic when it works.
BUT... I am now on my 3rd controller in about 10 years.
Motors are quite robust and seem bullet proof, but the controller units can become problematic when:-
The internal rub strips get tired / dirty,
Or the sprung contacts become weak,
Or the sensor disk inside becomes de-magnetised.
If you want "Easy reliable" then get the Calibra set-up.
If you want "Luxury Lazy" then get the Omega set up, plus a few spare control units.
Re: 1994 Cavalier LSi C20NE (was C18NZ) Work-horse
EDITED POST -
I have updated my How 2 guide, so all Sunroof info is here.
viewtopic.php?f=70&t=4329&p=39047#p39047
I have updated my How 2 guide, so all Sunroof info is here.
viewtopic.php?f=70&t=4329&p=39047#p39047
Re: 1994 Cavalier LSi C20NE (was C18NZ) Work-horse
Super stuff - thanks for the explanation
Re: 1994 Cavalier LSi C20NE (was C18NZ) Work-horse
Interesting point you make about 'setting' windows after disconnecting battery.
I have always held closed until I heard the 'click' what's the result of not waiting 5 seconds?
Al
I have always held closed until I heard the 'click' what's the result of not waiting 5 seconds?
Al
Re: 1994 Cavalier LSi C20NE (was C18NZ) Work-horse
Usually "raise until it clicks" will be satisfactory, but the 5 second rule is just the manufacturer approved recommendation.
I have known some unsynchronised Vauxhall cars that will raise the glass and it will drop again as if the pinch guard has detected a trapped object.
Sunroof's can be quite awkward to synchronise due to the number of steps involved.
I have known some unsynchronised Vauxhall cars that will raise the glass and it will drop again as if the pinch guard has detected a trapped object.
Sunroof's can be quite awkward to synchronise due to the number of steps involved.