It is obsolescence that will cause the Vectra's demise in years to come.
The last two times the car was forced off the road for more than a few days, I had struggled to find discontinued parts.
Fuel line last time.
Trailing arms and mounts this time.
They do not suffer from bodywork corrosion as such, which is what normally takes Vauxhalls to the scrapper.
According to a motoring friend, most cars are moderately trouble free for the first ten years.
This one has had all the usual Z19DTH failings, but it still plods on regardless.
The Wife's Vectra-C - The other battle wagon
Re: The Wife's Vectra-C - The other battle wagon
I'm amazed that Vauxhall has got on top of the rust with these, my 61 plate mk5 has already got a bit in the back of the one sill, the bottom of the drivers door( on the inside) and under one of the fake panels by the door that smooths out the rear body to the front door. Normally I would treat these before they got worse but my van also needs a gearbox, clutch and flywheel, new turbo, brakes and tyres sorting, a partial exhaust replacement including the dpf and a new timming belt kit so isn't along with some minor electrical gremlins isn't really worth repairing.
Hopefully for you the parts situation improves like it has to a certain extent with the Cavaliers. If you plan on keeping the Vectra for nearly ever would it be worth your while building up a stock of parts like I have for my mk2 Astra when they turn up cheap on ebay? I can't see there being much demand at the moment for a diesel 19 year Vectra so they should be able to be picked up for peanuts. Maybe if you've got room it may even be worth buying a whole car for spares?
Hopefully for you the parts situation improves like it has to a certain extent with the Cavaliers. If you plan on keeping the Vectra for nearly ever would it be worth your while building up a stock of parts like I have for my mk2 Astra when they turn up cheap on ebay? I can't see there being much demand at the moment for a diesel 19 year Vectra so they should be able to be picked up for peanuts. Maybe if you've got room it may even be worth buying a whole car for spares?
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Re: The Wife's Vectra-C - The other battle wagon
Aye, It's a weird one, only time I see Vectra B's now is at shows, and the odd one here and there, Vectra C's have gone much the same way. Nipping to the scrap yard is harder and harder these days I have 3 in short distance, but usually end up going to the likes of UPullIt (180 mile round trip, so have to make it worth my while!) - seems that is where all Vauxhalls go these days. Trying to find Yaris bits are just as difficult it seems. It would surprise me if the scrappage scheme originally caused alot of these vehicles to disappear.
Re: The Wife's Vectra-C - The other battle wagon
Vectra now has a new 12 month ticket - woohoo.
I probably could have bought a very good example, for the amount that I have spent on it since the beginning of December...
A big chunk was two lots of van hire.
But the biggest cost was the Clutch, dual mass and timing belt in December.
Hey ho... it is done now.
I probably could have bought a very good example, for the amount that I have spent on it since the beginning of December...
A big chunk was two lots of van hire.
But the biggest cost was the Clutch, dual mass and timing belt in December.
Hey ho... it is done now.
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Re: The Wife's Vectra-C - The other battle wagon
All good, though in fairness you've been nursing that clutch for a good number of years now, so it's all swings and roundabouts there.
Thing is, a cosmetically good example and a mechanically good example are probably not going to be the same vehicle. I did some ebay hunting the other night and yes sub 800quid, but when you start delving into the mot history - better the devil you know I think is the way to go there.
Congrats on the pass, may it be many more years before any more significant cost is required.
Thing is, a cosmetically good example and a mechanically good example are probably not going to be the same vehicle. I did some ebay hunting the other night and yes sub 800quid, but when you start delving into the mot history - better the devil you know I think is the way to go there.
Congrats on the pass, may it be many more years before any more significant cost is required.
Re: The Wife's Vectra-C - The other battle wagon
Cheers Gary,
The Vectra is home now.
A big sense of relief to have it back.
Ours is far from cosmetically and mechanically good.
It looks lived-in, and has been worked hard.
I suppose the MOT pass just means that it meets the minimum safety standards.
And then only until the car left the forecourt.
The Vectra is home now.
A big sense of relief to have it back.
Ours is far from cosmetically and mechanically good.
It looks lived-in, and has been worked hard.
I suppose the MOT pass just means that it meets the minimum safety standards.
And then only until the car left the forecourt.
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Re: The Wife's Vectra-C - The other battle wagon
It's one of those things, but yeah at the time of inspection it was fine. Cars are meant to be used at the end of the day.
Glad you're relieved its back and hopefully the rental can go back ASAP if it hasn't already.
Glad you're relieved its back and hopefully the rental can go back ASAP if it hasn't already.
Re: The Wife's Vectra-C - The other battle wagon
It went back as soon as I got back from the day's errands.
The girl said it came back perfect, so full refund on it's way.
The girl said it came back perfect, so full refund on it's way.
Re: The Wife's Vectra-C - The other battle wagon
Its great you've got a pass. I've probably spent the same on my Volvo as you since December, yet very little new parts to show for it. Lets hope you have a few more years before you have spend much on it again.
Re: The Wife's Vectra-C - The other battle wagon
I hope the car will be happy for a while.
It usually costs about £400 a year.
But this year, £2010 for parts and labour, and £600 for car hire.
I have a sneaking suspiscion that the exhaust is next.
Just rear mounts and rubbers, I think.
On the up-side...
It is the Cavalier's turn next.
I have told the garage that I will want it testing in mid-May, so that I know what work is needed after being laid up for four years...
Minimum will be the front jacking points, that are not for jacking up on.
It usually costs about £400 a year.
But this year, £2010 for parts and labour, and £600 for car hire.
I have a sneaking suspiscion that the exhaust is next.
Just rear mounts and rubbers, I think.
On the up-side...
It is the Cavalier's turn next.
I have told the garage that I will want it testing in mid-May, so that I know what work is needed after being laid up for four years...
Minimum will be the front jacking points, that are not for jacking up on.
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Re: The Wife's Vectra-C - The other battle wagon
Aye, it's a bit of a stinger, but it's done now.
Onto the Cav
Onto the Cav
Re: The Wife's Vectra-C - The other battle wagon
The way you have to look at it is what would £2600 buy you? In todays market unless you're really lucky, probably not a lot. Its often better to put money into something that overall you know is sound, than to an unknown quantity of another car. Equally though with every vehicle there comes a time when you have to cut your losses and bail out like I did with my wifes Panda.
Re: The Wife's Vectra-C - The other battle wagon
With the wife's car, it is also the load area that matters.
All modern cars come with no boot space.
Something vital for putting her wheelchair into.
It just goes into the Cavalier,
but there is bags more room in the Vectra.
Minimal corrosion, good comfort and handling.. and dare I say it, much less needy overall than the Cavalier is / was. And for it's age and weight - modestly economical to run. They are the reasons I persist with old cars.
That is why I hired a van, not a modern car.
Evening shots of the van
All modern cars come with no boot space.
Something vital for putting her wheelchair into.
It just goes into the Cavalier,
but there is bags more room in the Vectra.
Minimal corrosion, good comfort and handling.. and dare I say it, much less needy overall than the Cavalier is / was. And for it's age and weight - modestly economical to run. They are the reasons I persist with old cars.
That is why I hired a van, not a modern car.
Evening shots of the van
Re: The Wife's Vectra-C - The other battle wagon
I am getting a bit pee'd off with the Vectra. 
After all the work carried out over the past six months, I was hoping that my attention could divert to the Cavalier, but no - the Vectra gave me the middle-finger salute tonight.
We were going out to see our "adopted nieces" for a birthday meal.
Got in the vectra, turned the key.
Lights on the dash came on, and then silence.
No clicking solenoid, no cranking.
The lights did not dim, so not a battery issue.
Car abandoned for an adapted taxi.
Got back, but I could not settle without a working car.
At 10pm, after looking at a few forum posts, I tried changing a fuse, and one by one removed and refitted the relays in the underhood fuse-box.
On withdrawing the last relay, the car suddenly cranked and spluttered into life.
Put the relay back in, whilst the engine was running.
Turned off and tried cranking again - silence.
Withdrawing the relay seems to cure the problem.
Now to find a replacement on the eve of a bank holiday.
It is a GM / Bosch brown five pin relay.
I think I may have a few in the van fusebox.
A bit of a faff, but it looks like I will need to pull the relay, crank and start the engine, before refitting once running.
UPDATE -
A quick look on TIS says the relay causing all the issues is the wash-wipe relay... how odd. Nothing to do with the starter relay. In fact, it is the opposite end of the fuse box.
After all the work carried out over the past six months, I was hoping that my attention could divert to the Cavalier, but no - the Vectra gave me the middle-finger salute tonight.
We were going out to see our "adopted nieces" for a birthday meal.
Got in the vectra, turned the key.
Lights on the dash came on, and then silence.
No clicking solenoid, no cranking.
The lights did not dim, so not a battery issue.
Car abandoned for an adapted taxi.
Got back, but I could not settle without a working car.
At 10pm, after looking at a few forum posts, I tried changing a fuse, and one by one removed and refitted the relays in the underhood fuse-box.
On withdrawing the last relay, the car suddenly cranked and spluttered into life.
Put the relay back in, whilst the engine was running.
Turned off and tried cranking again - silence.
Withdrawing the relay seems to cure the problem.
Now to find a replacement on the eve of a bank holiday.
It is a GM / Bosch brown five pin relay.
I think I may have a few in the van fusebox.
A bit of a faff, but it looks like I will need to pull the relay, crank and start the engine, before refitting once running.
UPDATE -
A quick look on TIS says the relay causing all the issues is the wash-wipe relay... how odd. Nothing to do with the starter relay. In fact, it is the opposite end of the fuse box.
Re: The Wife's Vectra-C - The other battle wagon
It never ceases to amaze me when it comes to electrics effecting cars. I dont think id of ever found the wash wipe relay being the issue though, as it just doesn't make sense. Lets hope this is the end of problems with the Vectra as you've spent so much on it recently.
Re: The Wife's Vectra-C - The other battle wagon
I am sure it isn't the end.
The fact that an unrelated issue seems to affect the car starting indicates a potential internal failure of the fusebox itself.
On these cars a total mare of a job.
Disconnecting 3 huge multi-plugs, a big main power feed and ground.
Removing the old fuse box and fitting a replacement. Highly unlikely they still sell them new 15 years after production ceased.
Then wiring the new one in and programming it to the car.
Just what I could do without.
I am going to put the battery on charge to see if that makes a difference.
I doubt it, but who knows.
The fact that an unrelated issue seems to affect the car starting indicates a potential internal failure of the fusebox itself.
On these cars a total mare of a job.
Disconnecting 3 huge multi-plugs, a big main power feed and ground.
Removing the old fuse box and fitting a replacement. Highly unlikely they still sell them new 15 years after production ceased.
Then wiring the new one in and programming it to the car.
Just what I could do without.
I am going to put the battery on charge to see if that makes a difference.
I doubt it, but who knows.
Re: The Wife's Vectra-C - The other battle wagon
Ive found with both my Volvo and Jag, a battery that was starting to fail caused all sort of gripes, with the jag it caused the gearbox to go into limp mode yet still started ok, and with the Volvo the keyless start was a lot less responsive. In both cases a new battery cured all the issues.
Re: The Wife's Vectra-C - The other battle wagon
To be honest, I didn't think the battery was that old.
But I wouldn't be surprised if it isn't at least three years old.
It is amazing how quickly time flies by.
But I wouldn't be surprised if it isn't at least three years old.
It is amazing how quickly time flies by.
Re: The Wife's Vectra-C - The other battle wagon
The one on my jag was only a few months old and a Bosch, yet it still suffered total failure about 2months after the gearbox started to play up. As soon as it was replaced all issues went away.
Re: The Wife's Vectra-C - The other battle wagon
To be honest... at this point in time, my brain is fried.
Although I have noticed a few things that have been playing up.
Instruments -
Intermittently the speedometer or tachometer would regester much lower rpm or mph than reality.
Or the tachometer would not indicate at all.
Air Conditioning -
This has recently stopped working.
Non-start issue -
This only happened since 5:30pm last night.
Although it has took a little more cranking than usual to fire up recently.
not a lot, but noticable.
As if cranking the engine before the glow-plug light has gone off in winter.
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Any or none of these could be related...
You could easily say... ooh starter motor, or ooh the CIM module.
I know I need to check the car today, but I just can't face it... not just yet.
Assuming the car will start, I will cut my losses and get a new battery... ah well - it is only money.
Although I have noticed a few things that have been playing up.
Instruments -
Intermittently the speedometer or tachometer would regester much lower rpm or mph than reality.
Or the tachometer would not indicate at all.
Air Conditioning -
This has recently stopped working.
Non-start issue -
This only happened since 5:30pm last night.
Although it has took a little more cranking than usual to fire up recently.
not a lot, but noticable.
As if cranking the engine before the glow-plug light has gone off in winter.
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Any or none of these could be related...
You could easily say... ooh starter motor, or ooh the CIM module.
I know I need to check the car today, but I just can't face it... not just yet.
Assuming the car will start, I will cut my losses and get a new battery... ah well - it is only money.
Re: The Wife's Vectra-C - The other battle wagon
The car fired up okay today.
All gauges working fine.
Just to be sure, a full diagnostic was carried out.
Running voltage = 13.7 volts, so battery appears okay.
If I was being neurotic, I would point the finger of blame at the CIM module.
DIAGNOSTIC REPORT:
VAUX-COM 100820b
**********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
Source Address: CIM
Source Address: 0x00000245
Identifier: 0x0014
VIN: W0L0ZCF685******
Part Number:13162135
Software version number: 12244872_
System description: DELPH0400
Hardware key number: *67FNQK
Alpha code:
Manufacturing date: 050121
Code Index and version: 008 02
Number of stored fault codes: 4
B2961 - Switch Position Ignition Key Circuit Malfunction
(08) - Not present
B3794 - Switch Cruise Control Circuit Malfunction
(08) - Not present
U2105 - CAN-Bus No Communication with ECM (Engine Control Module)
(00) - Not present
U2111 - CAN-Bus No Communication With EHPS (Electro-Hydaulic-Power-Steering)
(00) - Not present
**********************ECU ID ENDS**********************
**********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
Source Address: ECM
Source Address: 0x000007E0
Identifier: 0x0738
System name: Z19DTH
VIN: W0L0ZCF685******
Hardware number:81011914
Part Number:55193968
Software version number: VJKMS050_S
Hardware manufacturer number: 0281011914
System description: 1037371351P319_O83
System description: BOSCH0100
Type approval number: B04003
Hardware key number: ÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿ
Programming Date: FFFFFFFF
System description: 0x00005098
Alpha code: YZ
Software version: O83JTD74
ECU variant coding: 0x000079C0
No fault codes stored.
**********************ECU ID ENDS**********************
**********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
Source Address: ABS/TC/ESP
Source Address: 0x00000243
Identifier: 0x0103
System name: ABSMEBC430
Hardware number:0
Part Number:13172568
Software version number: 0348C726
System description: TRW 0300
Hardware key number:
Alpha code: GU
ECU variant coding: 0x0000914C
Number of stored fault codes: 1
U2105 - CAN-Bus No Communication with ECM (Engine Control Module)
(00) - Not present
**********************ECU ID ENDS**********************
**********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
Source Address: EHPS
Source Address: 0x00000244
Identifier: 0x0104
System name: EHPS GEN3 TRW
Hardware number:24444336
Part Number:0
Software version number: V20_
System description: TRW 0300
Alpha code:
Code Index and version: 003 02
ECU variant coding: 0x00000000
No fault codes stored.
**********************ECU ID ENDS**********************
**********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
Source Address: IPC
Source Address: 0x00000255
Identifier: 0x0102
VIN: W0L0ZCF685******
Part Number:13186697
Software version number: 8.39 16/03
System description: VDO 0400
Hardware key number: 0000000000
Alpha code: EH
Manufacturing date: 050203
Code Index and version: 001 05
Number of stored fault codes: 2
U2105 - CAN-Bus No Communication with ECM (Engine Control Module)
(7F) - Not present
U2111 - CAN-Bus No Communication With EHPS (Electro-Hydaulic-Power-Steering)
(7F) - Not present
**********************ECU ID ENDS**********************
**********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
Source Address: AIRBAG SDM
Source Address: 0x00000257
Identifier: 0x0101
VIN: W0L0ZCF685******
Part Number:13170590
Software version number: 0C0C3303
Alpha code: DW
No fault codes stored.
**********************ECU ID ENDS**********************
**********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
Source Address: BCM
Source Address: 0x00000252
Identifier: 0x0208
VIN: W0L0ZCF685******
Part Number:13199492
Software version number: C13C96 13041704
System description: TEMIC04
Hardware key number: ÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿ
System description: 0x20202020202020303030393635363836
Alpha code: KD
Manufacturing date: 000500010207
Code Index and version:
Number of stored fault codes: 2
B1480 - Inadvertent Load Circuit Low Voltage
(02) - Not present
B3901 - Wrong Environment Identifier Received
(00) - Not present
**********************ECU ID ENDS**********************
**********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
Source Address: REC
Source Address: 0x00000254
Identifier: 0x0104
VIN: W0L0ZCF685******
System name: REC
Part Number:13189921
Software version number: 00000BBD
System description: LEAR 0400
Hardware key number: ÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿ
Alpha code: ER
No fault codes stored.
**********************ECU ID ENDS**********************
**********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
Source Address: UEC
Source Address: 0x00000253
Identifier: 0x0204
VIN: W0L0ZCF685******
System name: UEC
Part Number:13190892
Software version number: 00000BBC
System description: LEAR 0400
Alpha code: FB
Number of stored fault codes: 2
B3874 - Front Wiper On/Off Relay Circuit Open or Low Voltage
(06) - Not present
B3875 - Front Wiper Low/High Speed Relay Circuit Open or Low Voltage
(06) - Not present
**********************ECU ID ENDS**********************
**********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
Source Address: DDM
Source Address: 0x00000259
Identifier: 0x0105
VIN: W0L0ZCF685******
Part Number:13193368
Software version number: OP1D 192000
System description: SIEM 0401
Hardware key number: XXXXXXXXXX
Alpha code: JQ
Manufacturing date: 102050
Code Index and version:
Number of stored fault codes: 1
B2966 - Driver Doorknob Circuit Open or High Voltage
(05) - Present
**********************ECU ID ENDS**********************
**********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
Source Address: PDM
Source Address: 0x00000258
Identifier: 0x0104
VIN: W0L0ZCF685******
Part Number:13170150
Software version number: OP1D 191000
System description: SIEM 0401
Hardware key number: XXXXXXXXXX
Alpha code: EM
Manufacturing date: 021050
Code Index and version:
No fault codes stored.
**********************ECU ID ENDS**********************
**********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
Source Address: DIS
Source Address: 0x00000246
Identifier: 0x1301
VIN: W0L0ZCF685******
System name: CID/GID Epsilon
Hardware number:13128263
Part Number:24461297
Software version number: CE59-/00050
System description: SIEM 0400
Alpha code: DB
Code Index and version: 014 00
Number of stored fault codes: 3
U2102 - CAN-Bus (Mid Speed) Maximum Configuration List not Complete
(00) - Not present
U2139 - Invalid Data from CIM (Steering Column Module)
(71) - Not present
U2201 - CAN-Bus No Communication with EHU (Entertainment Head Unit)
(00) - Not present
**********************ECU ID ENDS**********************
**********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
Source Address: DIS
Source Address: 0x00000246
Identifier: 0x1301
VIN: W0L0ZCF685******
System name: CID/GID Epsilon
Hardware number:13128263
Part Number:24461297
Software version number: CE59-/00050
Alpha code: DB
Code Index and version: 014 00
Number of stored fault codes: 3
U2102 - CAN-Bus (Mid Speed) Maximum Configuration List not Complete
(00) - Present
U2139 - Invalid Data from CIM (Steering Column Module)
(71) - Not present
U2201 - CAN-Bus No Communication with EHU (Entertainment Head Unit)
(00) - Not present
**********************ECU ID ENDS**********************
All the codes cleared - fingers crossed.
It is frightening how many modules there are.
Part of the problem with congested CAN data streams.
All gauges working fine.
Just to be sure, a full diagnostic was carried out.
Running voltage = 13.7 volts, so battery appears okay.
If I was being neurotic, I would point the finger of blame at the CIM module.
DIAGNOSTIC REPORT:
VAUX-COM 100820b
**********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
Source Address: CIM
Source Address: 0x00000245
Identifier: 0x0014
VIN: W0L0ZCF685******
Part Number:13162135
Software version number: 12244872_
System description: DELPH0400
Hardware key number: *67FNQK
Alpha code:
Manufacturing date: 050121
Code Index and version: 008 02
Number of stored fault codes: 4
B2961 - Switch Position Ignition Key Circuit Malfunction
(08) - Not present
B3794 - Switch Cruise Control Circuit Malfunction
(08) - Not present
U2105 - CAN-Bus No Communication with ECM (Engine Control Module)
(00) - Not present
U2111 - CAN-Bus No Communication With EHPS (Electro-Hydaulic-Power-Steering)
(00) - Not present
**********************ECU ID ENDS**********************
**********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
Source Address: ECM
Source Address: 0x000007E0
Identifier: 0x0738
System name: Z19DTH
VIN: W0L0ZCF685******
Hardware number:81011914
Part Number:55193968
Software version number: VJKMS050_S
Hardware manufacturer number: 0281011914
System description: 1037371351P319_O83
System description: BOSCH0100
Type approval number: B04003
Hardware key number: ÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿ
Programming Date: FFFFFFFF
System description: 0x00005098
Alpha code: YZ
Software version: O83JTD74
ECU variant coding: 0x000079C0
No fault codes stored.
**********************ECU ID ENDS**********************
**********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
Source Address: ABS/TC/ESP
Source Address: 0x00000243
Identifier: 0x0103
System name: ABSMEBC430
Hardware number:0
Part Number:13172568
Software version number: 0348C726
System description: TRW 0300
Hardware key number:
Alpha code: GU
ECU variant coding: 0x0000914C
Number of stored fault codes: 1
U2105 - CAN-Bus No Communication with ECM (Engine Control Module)
(00) - Not present
**********************ECU ID ENDS**********************
**********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
Source Address: EHPS
Source Address: 0x00000244
Identifier: 0x0104
System name: EHPS GEN3 TRW
Hardware number:24444336
Part Number:0
Software version number: V20_
System description: TRW 0300
Alpha code:
Code Index and version: 003 02
ECU variant coding: 0x00000000
No fault codes stored.
**********************ECU ID ENDS**********************
**********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
Source Address: IPC
Source Address: 0x00000255
Identifier: 0x0102
VIN: W0L0ZCF685******
Part Number:13186697
Software version number: 8.39 16/03
System description: VDO 0400
Hardware key number: 0000000000
Alpha code: EH
Manufacturing date: 050203
Code Index and version: 001 05
Number of stored fault codes: 2
U2105 - CAN-Bus No Communication with ECM (Engine Control Module)
(7F) - Not present
U2111 - CAN-Bus No Communication With EHPS (Electro-Hydaulic-Power-Steering)
(7F) - Not present
**********************ECU ID ENDS**********************
**********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
Source Address: AIRBAG SDM
Source Address: 0x00000257
Identifier: 0x0101
VIN: W0L0ZCF685******
Part Number:13170590
Software version number: 0C0C3303
Alpha code: DW
No fault codes stored.
**********************ECU ID ENDS**********************
**********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
Source Address: BCM
Source Address: 0x00000252
Identifier: 0x0208
VIN: W0L0ZCF685******
Part Number:13199492
Software version number: C13C96 13041704
System description: TEMIC04
Hardware key number: ÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿ
System description: 0x20202020202020303030393635363836
Alpha code: KD
Manufacturing date: 000500010207
Code Index and version:
Number of stored fault codes: 2
B1480 - Inadvertent Load Circuit Low Voltage
(02) - Not present
B3901 - Wrong Environment Identifier Received
(00) - Not present
**********************ECU ID ENDS**********************
**********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
Source Address: REC
Source Address: 0x00000254
Identifier: 0x0104
VIN: W0L0ZCF685******
System name: REC
Part Number:13189921
Software version number: 00000BBD
System description: LEAR 0400
Hardware key number: ÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿ
Alpha code: ER
No fault codes stored.
**********************ECU ID ENDS**********************
**********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
Source Address: UEC
Source Address: 0x00000253
Identifier: 0x0204
VIN: W0L0ZCF685******
System name: UEC
Part Number:13190892
Software version number: 00000BBC
System description: LEAR 0400
Alpha code: FB
Number of stored fault codes: 2
B3874 - Front Wiper On/Off Relay Circuit Open or Low Voltage
(06) - Not present
B3875 - Front Wiper Low/High Speed Relay Circuit Open or Low Voltage
(06) - Not present
**********************ECU ID ENDS**********************
**********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
Source Address: DDM
Source Address: 0x00000259
Identifier: 0x0105
VIN: W0L0ZCF685******
Part Number:13193368
Software version number: OP1D 192000
System description: SIEM 0401
Hardware key number: XXXXXXXXXX
Alpha code: JQ
Manufacturing date: 102050
Code Index and version:
Number of stored fault codes: 1
B2966 - Driver Doorknob Circuit Open or High Voltage
(05) - Present
**********************ECU ID ENDS**********************
**********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
Source Address: PDM
Source Address: 0x00000258
Identifier: 0x0104
VIN: W0L0ZCF685******
Part Number:13170150
Software version number: OP1D 191000
System description: SIEM 0401
Hardware key number: XXXXXXXXXX
Alpha code: EM
Manufacturing date: 021050
Code Index and version:
No fault codes stored.
**********************ECU ID ENDS**********************
**********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
Source Address: DIS
Source Address: 0x00000246
Identifier: 0x1301
VIN: W0L0ZCF685******
System name: CID/GID Epsilon
Hardware number:13128263
Part Number:24461297
Software version number: CE59-/00050
System description: SIEM 0400
Alpha code: DB
Code Index and version: 014 00
Number of stored fault codes: 3
U2102 - CAN-Bus (Mid Speed) Maximum Configuration List not Complete
(00) - Not present
U2139 - Invalid Data from CIM (Steering Column Module)
(71) - Not present
U2201 - CAN-Bus No Communication with EHU (Entertainment Head Unit)
(00) - Not present
**********************ECU ID ENDS**********************
**********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
Source Address: DIS
Source Address: 0x00000246
Identifier: 0x1301
VIN: W0L0ZCF685******
System name: CID/GID Epsilon
Hardware number:13128263
Part Number:24461297
Software version number: CE59-/00050
Alpha code: DB
Code Index and version: 014 00
Number of stored fault codes: 3
U2102 - CAN-Bus (Mid Speed) Maximum Configuration List not Complete
(00) - Present
U2139 - Invalid Data from CIM (Steering Column Module)
(71) - Not present
U2201 - CAN-Bus No Communication with EHU (Entertainment Head Unit)
(00) - Not present
**********************ECU ID ENDS**********************
All the codes cleared - fingers crossed.
It is frightening how many modules there are.
Part of the problem with congested CAN data streams.
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Re: The Wife's Vectra-C - The other battle wagon
Frightening indeed. Glad you got it home, hopefully it seems more settled now though.
Re: The Wife's Vectra-C - The other battle wagon
The car never left the car park.
Thankfully we have a friend with a Ford Pro adapted van taxi, who was able to take us out to the pub restaurant at short notice, and bring us back again. Thanks Mark
So annoying, but I think I am erring towards the CIM (column integrated module).
That comment about key position in the diagnostic report is a big red flag.
B2961 - Switch Position Ignition Key Circuit Malfunction
(08) - Not present
The CIM is a vitally important module.
It links the engine, airbag, and transmission ECUs (High Speed CAN Network) to the rest of the car. (Single Wire / Low Speed CAN Network).
The CIM also controls all the power systems - ignition live, accessory live, and crank signal.
Oh and it also contains all the immobiliser functions.
Thankfully we have a friend with a Ford Pro adapted van taxi, who was able to take us out to the pub restaurant at short notice, and bring us back again. Thanks Mark
So annoying, but I think I am erring towards the CIM (column integrated module).
That comment about key position in the diagnostic report is a big red flag.
B2961 - Switch Position Ignition Key Circuit Malfunction
(08) - Not present
The CIM is a vitally important module.
It links the engine, airbag, and transmission ECUs (High Speed CAN Network) to the rest of the car. (Single Wire / Low Speed CAN Network).
The CIM also controls all the power systems - ignition live, accessory live, and crank signal.
Oh and it also contains all the immobiliser functions.