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Carlton C20ne

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 5:28 pm
by Mikebmth
Hey guys,

Feel kinda silly asking but want to be sure!

I have found a low mileage late plate Carlton with the C20ne in it but obviously the carlton mounts in line rather than the transverse in the cavalier

With the cav mounts could it be turned and fitted easily or is this a no go area.

Re: Carlton C20ne

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 6:40 pm
by Cavalier342
I would imagine it would fit straight in, the mounting points on the engine block should be the same, but the Carltons probably have different mounting points on the chassis, so I'm thinking yes. But wait for the boffins to confirm it, I don't want to make you spend cash on something that won't fit...

Re: Carlton C20ne

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 6:40 pm
by snowy
They are the same engine and yes if you strip the carlton engine mounts etc off and fit FWD parts then it will go into a cavalier.

There will be a spigot bearing in the end of the crank to remove and the Injection loom is a different length.

I've done this the other way around and taken a C20NE from a cavalier to fir in a RWD vauxhall

Re: Carlton C20ne

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 6:46 pm
by Mikebmth
snowy wrote:They are the same engine and yes if you strip the carlton engine mounts etc off and fit FWD parts then it will go into a cavalier.

There will be a spigot bearing in the end of the crank to remove and the Injection loom is a different length.

I've done this the other way around and taken a C20NE from a cavalier to fir in a RWD vauxhall
Cheers mate! :thumb

That's some good news, just confirming engine code and spec then it maybe finding it's way into my cav! :D

Re: Carlton C20ne

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 7:24 pm
by snowy
If you're lucky it will be the 20SE which is the 122bhp engine.

Stick an SEH ecu on it and you have an SEH engine :D

Re: Carlton C20ne

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 7:27 pm
by snowy
The only other thing to be wary of is some of the threaded holes in the block you want to use for the fwd application will never have been used in the Carlton. I have seen these corrode to the point you need to helcoil them to use them

Re: Carlton C20ne

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 9:37 pm
by planetc
Sump is also different

Re: Carlton C20ne

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 7:37 am
by Mikebmth
Was an idea...

Spoke to my mate John in Chichester last night and he has just bought a Cav 2 litre GLS to break with a C20NE already in it with decent mileage, now just waiting on the car to arrive and checks to be done on the lump which is late plate like mine so has a Cat :( but will be straight forward swap over.

Re: Carlton C20ne

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 8:52 am
by snowy
planetc wrote:Sump is also different
Yes the bowl is at the front. But sumps and pick up pipes are easy to swap over.......

Re: Carlton C20ne

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 11:23 am
by Cavalier342
Just because it has a cat already on it, doesn't mean it "has" to have a cat when it goes on lol.

Re: Carlton C20ne

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 6:13 pm
by planetc
I really would try to get the problem diagnosed if I were you Mike, you'll be even more gutted if you put an engine in it and find it's still drinking fuel.