Lowering springs
- joe cavalier sri
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Lowering springs
Hi I'm wanting to drop my cav lower I'm on 60 mm springs already with 16inch tsw stealth alloys on I can remember reading somewhere on here ages ago you could use corsa b lowering springs on a cav ? 60mm would drop it 80mm and 40mm ones were mentiond but what do 40mm drop a cav by ? Has anyone got any pics of both lowering springs on a cav 60mm and 40mm what els would I have to do to my cav to get it lower and Handel besides the oviouse polyurethane bushes and strut braces cheers
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Re: Lowering springs
Couple of passengers?
Is it not too low as it is? You'll be scraping the underside if it goes any lower I reckon.
Is it not too low as it is? You'll be scraping the underside if it goes any lower I reckon.
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Mine is lowered -40mm on Gmax and its an absolute pig....Solid hubs on the Cavs mean extreme lowering makes them handle like a bag of b*ll*cks to be honest, wouldnt go past -40mm with experience...
My cav on 15's currently with -40mm drop on Gmax.....Pic courtesy of lowriderdave
My cav on 15's currently with -40mm drop on Gmax.....Pic courtesy of lowriderdave
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had my cav turbo -60, and like the post above the handling was shite, its -40 now and its not too bad,Ads
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is that 40mm cav springs or 40mm corsa b lowering springs ? dose anyone have any pics of cavs on 60mm corsa b lowering springs ?
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All I'm going to add to this is from current experience, lowering springs on the 1.7TD improves handling, but also makes it prone to nose-diving under heavy braking. Turning on full lock also makes slightly unpleasant sounds if the car is cornering at speed.
Someone sort me out with a pair of standard diesel springs!
Someone sort me out with a pair of standard diesel springs!
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Re: Lowering springs
my c20ne cav is dropped on mk3 astra -40mm springs with kyb rear shocks for the 1.7td hatch and standard front shocks and a bust ally strut brace and on it's original 14" wheels with 175/65r14 tyres it's a tad low with the 15" wheels and 195/65r15 tyres its more useable, I even tow with it, and with the 17" wheels with 215/40r17 tyres it's capable of getting over speed bumps without scraping but due to the wrong offset of the 17" wheels they scrub with the weekly shop in the boot and the bumpy road but it's fine on the flat. and with any of the wheels on it it handles like it's on rails
here she is with the club plate and the 17s on
with a can of monster infront of her
a while ago in the 15s with 195/50r15 tyres
also had some stretched 215/45r16s but due to the offset of the wheels they made her handle like a shed yet they are fine on my mk3 astra that they came off along with the springs
personally I wouldn't use corsa spring due to the massive weight difference but the astra isn't too different so doesn't seem to cause any problems
hope this gives you something to think about and answers any questions about suspension setup with handling and use-ability
here she is with the club plate and the 17s on
with a can of monster infront of her
a while ago in the 15s with 195/50r15 tyres
also had some stretched 215/45r16s but due to the offset of the wheels they made her handle like a shed yet they are fine on my mk3 astra that they came off along with the springs
personally I wouldn't use corsa spring due to the massive weight difference but the astra isn't too different so doesn't seem to cause any problems
hope this gives you something to think about and answers any questions about suspension setup with handling and use-ability
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If you're at 60mm already then that's probably low enough. My Cavalier Turbo used to sit that low but the txb didn't like it. I now run GMAX -35mm springs and I like the way she sits now. If you try to go lower than 60mm there'll be no spring to speak of at all and you need the car to have flexibility in it. I'm not a fan of taking a spring from another car mainly because it's only giving you a low ride height because of the weight and the fact that it has lower tolerances (being from a Corsa for example) when you need your handling the most it could let you down.
If you are looking for "show" low then it may be worth investigating "Air Ride" kits or something like that. I was investigating Coilovers recently but after reading up and checking the price tag I couldn't justify the cost for the sake of a "controlled" lowering solution and so abandoned the idea. Low is one thing but in my opinion you should seek to do so for the sake of improving the handling too.
My Turbo sitting on -35mm Gmax Springs with Koni Adjustables (SSK21). 205/50/16 Tyres. IMO this is low enough.
If you are looking for "show" low then it may be worth investigating "Air Ride" kits or something like that. I was investigating Coilovers recently but after reading up and checking the price tag I couldn't justify the cost for the sake of a "controlled" lowering solution and so abandoned the idea. Low is one thing but in my opinion you should seek to do so for the sake of improving the handling too.
My Turbo sitting on -35mm Gmax Springs with Koni Adjustables (SSK21). 205/50/16 Tyres. IMO this is low enough.
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Re: Lowering springs
this around 60mm buts its on gaz coilovers and on 18s ...
this is on konis adjustable and koni springs 60mm drop (even tho back has dropped more)
this is on konis adjustable and koni springs 60mm drop (even tho back has dropped more)
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I think Eibach springs used to have a habit of giving an extra low stance on a Cavalier. Different brands give different results, I used to run Apex springs and they really sucked, far too firm for a lowering spring.
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Bloody hell, Pie... looks like the rear wheel is slowly collapsing in on the back of the white one... Not sure I'd ever feel comfortable driving something that low around, tbh.
Never use another Cav driver as guidance to a destination, unless you REALLY want to explore the country.
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2.0i (WHY won't it work?!)
"Won't SOMEBODY please think of the scones?"
1.7TD Ethos (Slightly broken)
1.8i (Given up, going for parts)
2.0i (WHY won't it work?!)
Re: Lowering springs
Here's my Diesel Cav with 205 45 R16 meant to be 40mm unknown make along with KYB Gas A just shocks.
Needs 60mm springs i think!
Any place cheaper? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/APEX-60-8000M ... 35cda194b1
Needs 60mm springs i think!
Any place cheaper? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/APEX-60-8000M ... 35cda194b1
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Another thing worth noting if you are on IRS is that at 60mm the inside tyre wear is greatly escalated and a camber correction kit should ideally be fitted. Yet another reason I got away from the 60mm job, tyres just didn't last at all.
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even with the solid rear beam you get camber and toe in mine has iirc 2 degrees negative camber and 1.5 degrees toe in with the 17s on but strangely my tyres are wearing quite nicely even with the odd bit of towing I do with her and the regular food shops with 2 kids in the back aswell
sriguy wrote:whats the excitment with broken exhausts.
Rage wrote:must be one of these "your not making enough power till you break something" things or just the "plain childish p*** everyone off with sheer noise" factor
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Well irs Cavs will not handle that well lowered unless the camber is adjusted. There are loads of factors though, springs, shocks, tyres, ride height and camber. It depends on your setup
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Re: Lowering springs
Can you put corsa b springs on the back of a cav and will they lower it as my cavs back end looks higher than the front so am wanting to lower the back.
Thought I would ask her sorry for jacking the thread just better than starting another thread.
Cheers all.
Thought I would ask her sorry for jacking the thread just better than starting another thread.
Cheers all.
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The sri i've just sold sat high at the back, probably the reason i had no high-up arch rot or rear rust. I quite liked the "funny car" look, but then again i have been known to move the odd chest-freezer or washing machinecavaliersri130 wrote:Can you put corsa b springs on the back of a cav and will they lower it as my cavs back end looks higher than the front so am wanting to lower the back.
Thought I would ask her sorry for jacking the thread just better than starting another thread.
Cheers all.
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Was it lol.ilovedmymantas wrote:The sri i've just sold sat high at the back, probably the reason i had no high-up arch rot or rear rust. I quite liked the "funny car" look, but then again i have been known to move the odd chest-freezer or washing machinecavaliersri130 wrote:Can you put corsa b springs on the back of a cav and will they lower it as my cavs back end looks higher than the front so am wanting to lower the back.
Thought I would ask her sorry for jacking the thread just better than starting another thread.
Cheers all.
I don't want to go that low I just want to level out the car it's higher at the back and low at the front.
Plus my arches have been completely redone with waxoil and underseal.
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id stick with cav springs cz the corsa ones be to week and prop wont last with the strain my lower by 60mm and on g max struts i find it handles well to be fair