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Hi I'm wanting to drop my cav lower I'm on 60 mm springs already with 16inch tsw stealth alloys on I can remember reading somewhere on here ages ago you could use corsa b lowering springs on a cav ? 60mm would drop it 80mm and 40mm ones were mentiond but what do 40mm drop a cav by ? Has anyone got any pics of both lowering springs on a cav 60mm and 40mm what els would I have to do to my cav to get it lower and Handel besides the oviouse polyurethane bushes and strut braces cheers :thumb
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Couple of passengers?

Is it not too low as it is? You'll be scraping the underside if it goes any lower I reckon.
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Mine is lowered -40mm on Gmax and its an absolute pig....Solid hubs on the Cavs mean extreme lowering makes them handle like a bag of b*ll*cks to be honest, wouldnt go past -40mm with experience...

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had my cav turbo -60, and like the post above the handling was shite, its -40 now and its not too bad,Ads
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is that 40mm cav springs or 40mm corsa b lowering springs ? dose anyone have any pics of cavs on 60mm corsa b lowering springs ?
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All I'm going to add to this is from current experience, lowering springs on the 1.7TD improves handling, but also makes it prone to nose-diving under heavy braking. Turning on full lock also makes slightly unpleasant sounds if the car is cornering at speed.


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my c20ne cav is dropped on mk3 astra -40mm springs with kyb rear shocks for the 1.7td hatch and standard front shocks and a bust ally strut brace and on it's original 14" wheels with 175/65r14 tyres it's a tad low with the 15" wheels and 195/65r15 tyres its more useable, I even tow with it, and with the 17" wheels with 215/40r17 tyres it's capable of getting over speed bumps without scraping but due to the wrong offset of the 17" wheels they scrub with the weekly shop in the boot and the bumpy road but it's fine on the flat. and with any of the wheels on it it handles like it's on rails

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a while ago in the 15s with 195/50r15 tyres

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also had some stretched 215/45r16s but due to the offset of the wheels they made her handle like a shed yet they are fine on my mk3 astra that they came off along with the springs

personally I wouldn't use corsa spring due to the massive weight difference but the astra isn't too different so doesn't seem to cause any problems

hope this gives you something to think about and answers any questions about suspension setup with handling and use-ability
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If you're at 60mm already then that's probably low enough. My Cavalier Turbo used to sit that low but the txb didn't like it. I now run GMAX -35mm springs and I like the way she sits now. If you try to go lower than 60mm there'll be no spring to speak of at all and you need the car to have flexibility in it. I'm not a fan of taking a spring from another car mainly because it's only giving you a low ride height because of the weight and the fact that it has lower tolerances (being from a Corsa for example) when you need your handling the most it could let you down.

If you are looking for "show" low then it may be worth investigating "Air Ride" kits or something like that. I was investigating Coilovers recently but after reading up and checking the price tag I couldn't justify the cost for the sake of a "controlled" lowering solution and so abandoned the idea. Low is one thing but in my opinion you should seek to do so for the sake of improving the handling too.


My Turbo sitting on -35mm Gmax Springs with Koni Adjustables (SSK21). 205/50/16 Tyres. IMO this is low enough.
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this around 60mm buts its on gaz coilovers and on 18s ...

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this is on konis adjustable and koni springs 60mm drop (even tho back has dropped more)

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I think Eibach springs used to have a habit of giving an extra low stance on a Cavalier. Different brands give different results, I used to run Apex springs and they really sucked, far too firm for a lowering spring.
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Bloody hell, Pie... looks like the rear wheel is slowly collapsing in on the back of the white one... Not sure I'd ever feel comfortable driving something that low around, tbh.
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Here's my Diesel Cav with 205 45 R16 meant to be 40mm unknown make along with KYB Gas A just shocks.

Needs 60mm springs i think!

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Another thing worth noting if you are on IRS is that at 60mm the inside tyre wear is greatly escalated and a camber correction kit should ideally be fitted. Yet another reason I got away from the 60mm job, tyres just didn't last at all.
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even with the solid rear beam you get camber and toe in mine has iirc 2 degrees negative camber and 1.5 degrees toe in with the 17s on but strangely my tyres are wearing quite nicely even with the odd bit of towing I do with her and the regular food shops with 2 kids in the back aswell
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Well irs Cavs will not handle that well lowered unless the camber is adjusted. There are loads of factors though, springs, shocks, tyres, ride height and camber. It depends on your setup
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Can you put corsa b springs on the back of a cav and will they lower it as my cavs back end looks higher than the front so am wanting to lower the back.
Thought I would ask her sorry for jacking the thread just better than starting another thread.

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cavaliersri130 wrote:Can you put corsa b springs on the back of a cav and will they lower it as my cavs back end looks higher than the front so am wanting to lower the back.
Thought I would ask her sorry for jacking the thread just better than starting another thread.

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ilovedmymantas wrote:
cavaliersri130 wrote:Can you put corsa b springs on the back of a cav and will they lower it as my cavs back end looks higher than the front so am wanting to lower the back.
Thought I would ask her sorry for jacking the thread just better than starting another thread.

Cheers all.
The sri i've just sold sat high at the back, probably the reason i had no high-up arch rot or rear rust. I quite liked the "funny car" look, but then again i have been known to move the odd chest-freezer or washing machine :!:
Was it lol.
I don't want to go that low I just want to level out the car it's higher at the back and low at the front.
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id stick with cav springs cz the corsa ones be to week and prop wont last with the strain my lower by 60mm and on g max struts i find it handles well to be fair
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