Condensation

[Envoy CDX]

There is no way the scuttles would have been done. It's not an obvious fault

[btcctroy]

I charge 600 for a successful repair. It's one horrid job

[humbucker]

There is no way the scuttles would have been done. It's not an obvious fault

^^^ what he said

[Telegram Sam]

is it possible to at least SEE if there's a problem before taking everything apart (and trying to get the bits to fit together again)?

If there's any way for water to get in then the last 24 hours in Cambs will have provided the opportunity. I was glad to leave the place and its weather behind me this morning! [Only to get stuck in a mega jam all the way up to Newark - and my engine doesn't like idling ]

[btcctroy]

is it possible to at least SEE if there's a problem before taking everything apart (and trying to get the bits to fit together again)?

If there's any way for water to get in then the last 24 hours in Cambs will have provided the opportunity. I was glad to leave the place and its weather behind me this morning! [Only to get stuck in a mega jam all the way up to Newark - and my engine doesn't like idling ]

As said numerous times you can shine a torch up into the corners behind the dash and physically see. I've also known the windscreen leak

[Envoy CDX]

[Only to get stuck in a mega jam all the way up to Newark - and my engine doesn't like idling ][/i]

Still?

[Robsey]

Yes still -

He has not been able find the correct Damos files for the SEH engine.

We have both been trawling all sorts of diagnostics and tuning forums for weeks looking for information or advice.
So far there has been a resounding silence.

[Envoy CDX]

Yes still -

He has not been able find the correct Damos files for the SEH engine.

We have both been trawling all sorts of diagnostics and tuning forums for weeks looking for information or advice.
So far there has been a resounding silence.

Bugger, this to smooth out the idle I am guessing?

[btcctroy]

Yes still -

He has not been able find the correct Damos files for the SEH engine.

We have both been trawling all sorts of diagnostics and tuning forums for weeks looking for information or advice.
So far there has been a resounding silence.

Bugger, this to smooth out the idle I am guessing?

The idle valve is a pain. It tends to fall where it falls then fluctuates. I do wonder if it's the actual mosfet in the ecu breaking down. Probably a TIP transistor to drive the Damn thing
Gaz showed me a possible mod where you can increase the idle all very slightly
Enabling less effort on the control from the ecu

[Telegram Sam]

I'll get shot for moving off topic (condensation) on this, in which case the moderators can kindly move this elsewhere

I'm out of my depth as far as evening out the idle speed is concerned. Automark did some tweak which increased it without involving the ECU but would still prefer to approach the thing from both angles. Myself I'd live with the idle as is if ways could be found to make the engine a bit less jerky when speeding @ 10 - 15 mph on the Newcastle Western Bypass [redundant Specs]

[btcctroy]

Jerky because of the poor idle control circuit. I don't think it's a tuning fix but a case of something deteriorating causing the idle control valve not to respond properly.
I bet after 1500 rpm it all goes smooth

[Telegram Sam]

You all but won your bet but I would put it a bit above 1500 DEPENDING on the loading and gear (doesn't jerk much when pulling, more when just chugging along on a gentle throttle). Of course I am partly responsible myself - a hi-lift cam and lightened flywheel aren't mods normally recommended for the black Fords used by undertakers under similar conditions.

[btcctroy]

You all but won your bet but I would put it a bit above 1500 DEPENDING on the loading and gear (doesn't jerk much when pulling, more when just chugging along on a gentle throttle). Of course I am partly responsible myself - a hi-lift cam and lightened flywheel aren't mods normally recommended for the black Fords used by undertakers under similar conditions.

Ahhh well that changes everything

[TurboDan]

If you are on the facebook group then have alook now as someone has just posted up pics of there rust up behind the dash and its pretty bad. Shows the problem though

I did try and link it on here but its not working for me today.

[TurboDan]

Fixed it.

[btcctroy]

That's not all that bad I have seen it a lot worse than that.
As I said it's a pig to repair properly

[Telegram Sam]

Looks like a pig to me but as from this afternoon Envoy Gary is authorised to report on what my problem is (rather than me speculating). If it is not too far advanced I wonder if it could be chemically treated, though obviously there comes a point where it's out with the welding torch.
We think that the source of the problem could be delamination around the windscreen* (still the original!), something that had not occurred to me. Damp from there then seeping down to under the carpet in the passenger footwell.
We didn't take everything apart for inspection (so surmise and inspired guesswork) partly for fear of the problems in getting everything to fit together again within the time available.
* is it worth putting in a claim for a new windscreen on the insurance or do you just lose out more at next renewal? I've got NCB protection.

[planetc]

I think the screen needs to be broken beyond repair for an insurance claim. It should have little or no effect on your renewal though.

[Envoy CDX]

Yes, the windscreen needs to be damaged where replacement is the only option - that said - you then have to go to there authorised repair centres (or they come to you).
I have recommended one company to do the job already for a fair price (probably not much more than what your excess will be).

That said - I would be tempted to strip out the interior, or at least the glove box and under panels and have a good look about before replacing the screen.

I'm fairly confident that the de-laminating screen is contributing to the issues though.

[humbucker]

Time to invest in a heated windscreen, mmmn

[Envoy CDX]

Time to invest in a heated windscreen, mmmn

I will be

[Telegram Sam]

Yes, the windscreen needs to be damaged where replacement is the only option - that said - you then have to go to there authorised repair centres (or they come to you).
I have recommended one company to do the job already for a fair price (probably not much more than what your excess will be). That said - I would be tempted to strip out the interior, or at least the glove box and under panels and have a good look about before replacing the screen.

I'm fairly confident that the de-laminating screen is contributing to the issues though

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Delicate issue with the insurance company. They would just send their appointed Mr Fixit van round to replace the windscreen and not much else - like seeing to the frame etc. If I go to your people in Middlesbrough for a proper job it's up for discussion whether the insurance would pay even if there were "hairline cracks". Have to phone the Claims Dept tomorrow.

If there is delamination then it's probably about time (after 22 years ..) to replace the windscreen anyway regardless of what there is below - and leave investigations into that to the man in Catterick.

[gazza1701-a]

Fixed it.

This is my car...still scatch'in my head on how to tackle it

[btcctroy]

Imagine it 5 times worse and that Was my car

[Telegram Sam]

I'd prefer not to make comparisons at this stage with what might be behind my dash, thank you. As a temporary partial "solution" I've found in a drawer a tube of "Capt Tolley's Creeping Crack Cure .. finds and fixes leaks .. seals by penetrating hairline cracks" which someone must have recommended to me once. If this could just prevent water penetrating down it would give me a bit more breathing space.