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#161766 by th0m45
Tue Mar 14, 2017 9:02 pm
Hi guys, trying to get my headlight washers working. Wipers work perfectly but the squirters arent, got the little pump in my washer bottle for the windscreen wash.

Do I just loop out of that or is there another pump I need? And why is the pump got 2 outlet's to it (feed and return it seems?)

The car has had a complete restoration and all the pipes have been renewed, hence my problem.

Thanks.
#161797 by th0m45
Thu Mar 16, 2017 6:21 pm
Anyone able to help?
#161806 by Mk3alan
Thu Mar 16, 2017 7:58 pm
Not that familiar myself but i do know they only work when lights are on and consume a lot of screenwash!

Alan
#161826 by Robsey
Sat Mar 18, 2017 3:18 am
Are there not two pumps?

One for the windscreen and rear screen.
(The pump with two hoses on it).

Then a second pump for the headlamps.
(One hose on it.)

As mentioned it only works when you operate the front windscreen washers with the headlamps on.
So maybe an additional relay in there somewhere.
#161827 by iangsi
Sat Mar 18, 2017 11:39 am
Robsey wrote:Are there not two pumps?

One for the windscreen and rear screen.
(The pump with two hoses on it).

Then a second pump for the headlamps.
(One hose on it.)

As mentioned it only works when you operate the front windscreen washers with the headlamps on.
So maybe an additional relay in there somewhere.


I think there is also a 2nd washer bottle under the front passenger side wing.
#161829 by Robsey
Sat Mar 18, 2017 12:05 pm
Hmm - I thought it was just one all singing and dancing over-size bottle under the wing, with a long filler neck on it, that has two pumps and a fluid level switch.

However having never had one on my car, I cannot say for sure.
I have one in my shed though as I was going to retrofit the level switch.
#161833 by th0m45
Sat Mar 18, 2017 9:49 pm
Thanks for all the replies lads!
Yeah it's 1 massive bottle under the passenger inner wing with the long filler neck but on mine there is only 1 pump and nowhere for a level sender.. Although there is an extra unused plug so maybe I've got a bottle for a car without headlamp washers.
I have the motors for the wipers working when the lights are on etc so no need for extra relays. Just the plumbing side I'm having issues with, went to see a scrap car today but all that was missing from it, typical.
I'll need to find out for definite before I go any further.
#161835 by Mk3alan
Sat Mar 18, 2017 11:25 pm
I have just disabled the headlight washers on my 1998 Astra by removing the 30 amp fuse. Pump for screen and separate pump for headlights.
I did it because the headlight washers use a horrendous amount of screen wash which ran me dry the other day. I keep the car pretty clean so felt I could do without it!

Alan
#161836 by Robsey
Sat Mar 18, 2017 11:34 pm
According to Haynes, the headlamp washer pump is in the filler neck.
#161838 by iangsi
Sun Mar 19, 2017 12:41 pm
th0m45 wrote:And why is the pump got 2 outlet's to it (feed and return it seems.


I think the 2nd outlet is for the rear washer if your car is a hatchback

th0m45 wrote: Although there is an extra unused plug so maybe I've got a bottle for a car without headlamp washers.

You could also try testing the unused plug for voltage while you operate wipers to see if it will work.
#161839 by Robsey
Sun Mar 19, 2017 1:09 pm
A moment of realisation.

The pump arrangement will depend on your body shape.

A hatch back will need three outlets.
Windscreen, hatch window and headlamps.
A saloon will only need two as saloons do not have rear wash / wipe.
(Please correct me if I am wrong).

So if you have a saloon bottle, then it will only have forward pump for screen and reverse pump for headlamps.

A hatch would ordinarily have forward pump for screen wash and reverse pump for hatch window.

So with headlamp wash it would need another pump on the bottle purely for the headlamp wash.
#161852 by iangsi
Sun Mar 19, 2017 8:11 pm
Low spec saloons have a bottle in the engine bay fixed to the suspension turret with a single pump as in my Motorsport, higher spec cars have the bottle under the wing with a single pump under the wing & another pump in the filler neck with 3 hose connections one suction line which connects on to the bottom of the bottle under the wing, one goes towards the headlights & the other goes up towards the bulkhead as in my GSI. Hope this helps you.
#161855 by th0m45
Sun Mar 19, 2017 10:58 pm
Thanks for all the replies chaps, yes my car is a hatchback.
I've removed my rear wiper and scoosher so I could use that for the headlights? Although I'd like the level switch so I'll be checking out that extra plug before I go much further.
The boy that had the car before me it was a v6 saloon he had as a donar car, maybe that's the bottles etc I got with my car, as mine was partially stripped when I bought it.
As for it using loads of washer fluid I'm not overly fussed, the car is only a summer/weekend toy, I use my van as a daily.

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