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dont know what i should do with my drag cav.

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At the end of august my cav will run out of tax and test. I dont know weather to sell as a rolling shell. With all the cav goodies left on it or break it. I've done a lot to the cav for the drag strip. Been a really good budget racer. But I got my 87 restored Belmont as my next project drag wep.
The cav weights 960kgs running. It's been on a fair diet, 14.53 sec quarter with standard c20xe.

For the rolling shell, I'm wanting the engine and engine loom and ancillarys, gear box the 2 seats , race fuel tank and pump. Maybe couple other parts can't think off top of my head.

The Cavs got bilstien shocks all round. 75mm fronts and 120mm rear springs. Gsi lights German smoke repeaters black ring head light mod. After market mesh grill. Gsi front bumper and gsi side skirts complete with all caps n end bits and tow eye cover. Modifyed rear gsi bumper.(badly). Manuel steering rack conversion abs removed too it is a back to basics car. Good brakes all round .

It is a track and drag toy. Has been since I bought it for that reason lol. Shame to kill it but I'm going more old skool toy.

Just can't make my mind up on it at all lol.
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how much for the bilstien's :lol: :p
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buffkane wrote:At the end of august my cav will run out of tax and test. I dont know weather to sell as a rolling shell. With all the cav goodies left on it or break it. I've done a lot to the cav for the drag strip. Been a really good budget racer. But I got my 87 restored Belmont as my next project drag wep.
The cav weights 960kgs running. It's been on a fair diet, 14.53 sec quarter with standard c20xe.

For the rolling shell, I'm wanting the engine and engine loom and ancillarys, gear box the 2 seats , race fuel tank and pump. Maybe couple other parts can't think off top of my head.

The Cavs got bilstien shocks all round. 75mm fronts and 120mm rear springs. Gsi lights German smoke repeaters black ring head light mod. After market mesh grill. Gsi front bumper and gsi side skirts complete with all caps n end bits and tow eye cover. Modifyed rear gsi bumper.(badly). Manuel steering rack conversion abs removed too it is a back to basics car. Good brakes all round .

It is a track and drag toy. Has been since I bought it for that reason lol. Shame to kill it but I'm going more old skool toy.

Just can't make my mind up on it at all lol.
Dont do it!!!! Keep both ;-) belmont as daily car
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You've taken 700 kg of weight off! :shock: How the hell did you do that?
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Cavalier342 wrote:You've taken 700 kg of weight off! :shock: How the hell did you do that?
That must have been some lardy Cav to weigh 1660kgs?
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You have to keep it going,I'll soon have the V6 on the road again and ready for the Pod.Would be great to line the two up together.
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iancav6 wrote:
Cavalier342 wrote:You've taken 700 kg of weight off! :shock: How the hell did you do that?
That must have been some lardy Cav to weigh 1660kgs?
Standard weight for a Cavalier as printed on the VIN plate.
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lol a standard cav weights about 1240kg had it weighed before I started stripping.

id love to keep it ont the road fact it is I got more money and time and effort in my Belmont
and its a lighter car lol. Will also have it as a road legal build but track n drag spec.

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id rather all the parts went to the club to aid in keeping your cars sweet. rather then sell them on facebook or ebay.

but its a case I need to do the Belmont now lol I want my garage back too. its been in there for 3 years.
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belmont_dazz wrote:Dont do it!!!! Keep both ;-) belmont as daily car
id like to do that but a stripped to hell car for drag n track ant no fun driving to work in winter with no heating as ive removed it lol.

and my mk4 astra sri is brill daily, fast enough with air con and Cruise control. lol
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Chip Pan Dan wrote:how much for the bilstien's :lol: :p
ill probably get what needs to be done done when the cavs off the road then ill get a price list up bud!
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and besides ive always classed the Belmont as the B##t##d love child of a cavalier and astra lol. So I wont be going far :)
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My belmont with saab engine 156kg i think they are weighed 1270kg with me and a passenger and a few bits in boot and 1/4 of a tank of fuel. So its own weight would be more around the 1000kg. So cav would be same if belmont wss in standard form! ;-)

I think the 1660kg part is the max gross weight too
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Cavalier342 wrote:
iancav6 wrote:
Cavalier342 wrote:You've taken 700 kg of weight off! :shock: How the hell did you do that?
That must have been some lardy Cav to weigh 1660kgs?
Standard weight for a Cavalier as printed on the VIN plate.
Gross Andrei, vin plates don't include unladen weights
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Ye gross curb weight. 1670kg for my auto, 1760 ish for the V6. Gross combination weight is 3100kg on the V6.

Unladen weight is no driver and a tank of fuel I think. They're way heavier than 1200kg, that just seems too light for the size of the car.
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No, gross is fully laden, the kerb weight is ready to roll and for a 5dr c18nz ls auto is 1145kg quoted straight from the original handbook
"No the temperature gauge doesn't work........
we've driven 150 miles today........
the heater went cold last Thursday........
they check the level when it's serviced don't they?"
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Oh, that's disappointing. Cheers for clearing it up though.
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Cavalier342 wrote:Oh, that's disappointing. Cheers for clearing it up though.
disappointing? in what way lol a 170bhp v6 1700kg+ would be so fecking slow!!! not to mention 5mpg

gsi 3/4 stripped was weighed 1120kg octavia only weighs 1300kg and thats so much bigger than my gsi was :lol:
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I like heavy cars, but I won't go on about it.

Just thought Cavaliers were a lot heavier than that. They're built like tanks, thought there would be a bit more weight to them. I want a Senator :(
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Its the suspension at the back of the gsi which has all the weight, Not like us skinny rear beamed lot :p
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ls 400? near on 2tonne lol really nice cars

luton van? 3.5tonne lol

not really if you look at a newer car the cavs are so slim and short,interiors are alot thinner aswell :thumb
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Cavalier342 wrote:I like heavy cars, but I won't go on about it.

Just thought Cavaliers were a lot heavier than that. They're built like tanks, thought there would be a bit more weight to them. I want a Senator :(
Your a strange little man. Lol fill the boot with concrete then it will be 2tonne. Do about 3 miles to a tenner.
Why don't you like modern cars then they weigh 1500kg and are massive as compared to the cav
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btcctroy wrote:
Cavalier342 wrote:I like heavy cars, but I won't go on about it.

Just thought Cavaliers were a lot heavier than that. They're built like tanks, thought there would be a bit more weight to them. I want a Senator :(
Your a strange little man. Lol fill the boot with concrete then it will be 2tonne. Do about 3 miles to a tenner.
Why don't you like modern cars then they weigh 1500kg and are massive as compared to the cav
Or you could fill the sills with strawberry jelly and retain the boot space? Bonus would be that you would have an emergency food source if you ever got stuck whilst off roading?
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we've driven 150 miles today........
the heater went cold last Thursday........
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No, modern cars are ugly and problematic, that'll never change. I'm more into my full size American cars. Heavier is the way to go, better comfort when cruising and better traction in the wet.

Anyway I think we ruined this thread enough :lol:
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Cavalier342 wrote:No, modern cars are ugly and problematic, that'll never change. I'm more into my full size American cars. Heavier is the way to go, better comfort when cruising and better traction in the wet.

Anyway I think we ruined this thread enough :lol:

I'm not going to explain the physics of it but a heavier car will have less traction round corners because there is more weight to "pull" it out of line.

In my opinion weight is the biggest killer when it comes to cars. A heavier car also tends to have harder suspension so that it doesn't lean as much in the corners.
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Well not always. Depends on the layout of the car itself. I.e. how wide it is, how wide the track on it is, ground clearance, and obviously what tyres are fitted. Weight transfer makes the tyres work harder, which given the right road conditions won't make for bad handling.
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